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		<title>By: Chris Donato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Donato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peruse his recent &lt;a href=&quot;http://yalepress.yale.edu/yupbooks/book.asp?isbn=9780300111903&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Atheist Delusions&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; for some real polemic. Can&#039;t really judge whether or not he excludes intellectual charity, though, since I&#039;m not all that familiar with the folks he engages throughout it. There are some borderline mean-spirited zingers in there.

I kind of enjoyed his &quot;Christ and Nothing,&quot; but especially his &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/?p=1067&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Tsunami and Theodicy.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peruse his recent <a href="http://yalepress.yale.edu/yupbooks/book.asp?isbn=9780300111903" rel="nofollow"><i>Atheist Delusions</i></a> for some real polemic. Can&#8217;t really judge whether or not he excludes intellectual charity, though, since I&#8217;m not all that familiar with the folks he engages throughout it. There are some borderline mean-spirited zingers in there.</p>
<p>I kind of enjoyed his &#8220;Christ and Nothing,&#8221; but especially his <a href="http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/?p=1067" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Tsunami and Theodicy.&#8221;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brian Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 14:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t think that polemic _by definition_ excludes intellectual charity, though it&#039;s impossible to deny that, as a matter of fact, it usually does. Part of the reason I enjoy Hart, though, is that his polemic usually is against real figures and real argument, rather than stupid strawmen. The pacifism he dismisses _is_ a stupid strawman, which is why it struck me as bizarre (a word that, though strong and somewhat polemical, I meant sympathetically!). It&#039;s just a bit of evidence that whereas his critiques of Heidegger or Nietzsche are born of a long, even sympathetic struggle with their thought, Yoder has very obviously never merited that same level of attention for him.

To the last question, as to whether he&#039;s less polemical in his more sustained pieces, the answer is a clear no. He just is a polemicist. I have detected, though, a fairly explicit attempt to respond to the accusations of mean-spiritedness in his more recent work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t think that polemic <em>by definition</em> excludes intellectual charity, though it&#8217;s impossible to deny that, as a matter of fact, it usually does. Part of the reason I enjoy Hart, though, is that his polemic usually is against real figures and real argument, rather than stupid strawmen. The pacifism he dismisses <em>is</em> a stupid strawman, which is why it struck me as bizarre (a word that, though strong and somewhat polemical, I meant sympathetically!). It&#8217;s just a bit of evidence that whereas his critiques of Heidegger or Nietzsche are born of a long, even sympathetic struggle with their thought, Yoder has very obviously never merited that same level of attention for him.</p>
<p>To the last question, as to whether he&#8217;s less polemical in his more sustained pieces, the answer is a clear no. He just is a polemicist. I have detected, though, a fairly explicit attempt to respond to the accusations of mean-spiritedness in his more recent work.</p>
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		<title>By: Faith and Theology: Twenty-nine days of sinning and forty to repent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faith and Theology: Twenty-nine days of sinning and forty to repent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 07:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 23:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hart&#039;s blunder illustrates the inherent problem with his favorite rhetorical strategy (at least in the articles I&#039;ve read): polemic.  Polemic, almost by definition, does not seek to understand the opponent in a sympathetic mode, and so is prone to caricatures and generalizations that have an unclear relationship to actual, particular realities.  The article on &quot;Christ and Nothing&quot; especially illustrates this latter tendency, as Hart himself notes several times through the article.  For rhetorical force, Hart can&#039;t be beat, but intellectual charity is a virtue which I have not seen deployed much in the work of his I&#039;ve read.  Perhaps this is just an unfortunate side-effect of the form of the short essay.  Is he less polemical in his more sustained pieces?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hart&#8217;s blunder illustrates the inherent problem with his favorite rhetorical strategy (at least in the articles I&#8217;ve read): polemic.  Polemic, almost by definition, does not seek to understand the opponent in a sympathetic mode, and so is prone to caricatures and generalizations that have an unclear relationship to actual, particular realities.  The article on &#8220;Christ and Nothing&#8221; especially illustrates this latter tendency, as Hart himself notes several times through the article.  For rhetorical force, Hart can&#8217;t be beat, but intellectual charity is a virtue which I have not seen deployed much in the work of his I&#8217;ve read.  Perhaps this is just an unfortunate side-effect of the form of the short essay.  Is he less polemical in his more sustained pieces?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is bizarre. I like Hart&#039;s work, but it does sometimes veer into inexplicabilities! For all his brilliance, it seems he often treats his interlocutors dismissively. But I&#039;m guilty of this, too.  

I wonder how he would defend himself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is bizarre. I like Hart&#8217;s work, but it does sometimes veer into inexplicabilities! For all his brilliance, it seems he often treats his interlocutors dismissively. But I&#8217;m guilty of this, too.  </p>
<p>I wonder how he would defend himself?</p>
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		<title>By: Around the traps… « Per Crucem ad Lucem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Around the traps… « Per Crucem ad Lucem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] David Bentley Hart&#8217;s bizarre thoughtlessness regarding pacifism by Brian Hamilton. Dave Belcher also posts on David Bentley Hart. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One could add a further inaccuracy regarding Hart&#039;s reading of realism: Niebuhr&#039;s word for &quot;a secure and just social order&quot; is not in any very full sense &quot;peace,&quot; but &quot;relative justice.&quot; If he does call it peace, it&#039;s only in a provisional and self-consciously inadequate way. Presumably the orthodox traditions could comfortably use these terms in exactly the same way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One could add a further inaccuracy regarding Hart&#8217;s reading of realism: Niebuhr&#8217;s word for &#8220;a secure and just social order&#8221; is not in any very full sense &#8220;peace,&#8221; but &#8220;relative justice.&#8221; If he does call it peace, it&#8217;s only in a provisional and self-consciously inadequate way. Presumably the orthodox traditions could comfortably use these terms in exactly the same way.</p>
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